Jeff, only one of us is being stupid, and his name is Jeff. Dough and a loaf of baked bread are not the same thing, even if you want them to be for your own political or religious reasons. They just aren't the same thing. Also, why don't you just trust women to make the right decision for their own futures and bodies? What about rape victims and incest? Force them into giving birth? Maybe let them decide and get the medical treatment they need. Abortion rights have been the standard since the early 70s because its been common sense that women should have access to that care for over 50 years... and here comes Jeff and the religious right trying to go back to the 1800s and put old white guys in charge of everything. Cool, bro, real cool.